■ Was there any difference between the actual impression and the image of him you had held until then?
M: There was. Of course, as long as you work with this business, you can't go without hearing the name Yoyogi Tadashi even if you are just an underling. He founded the Adult Video in Japan. "Mr. Yoyogi is crazy," a senior of mine had told me. To me, he was crazy enough. So I had been very afraid of Mr. Yoyogi. Actually meeting, however, I found him calm, dandy and kind of androgynous. And I thought "Is this him?" It was when he interviewed me with an introduction from Sagawa Ginji who's belonged to the Mensetsu Gundan.
Mr. Yoyogi
■ How about joining the Mensetsu Gundan?
M: In this field, belonging to Yoyogi's team (so-called Yoyogi-gumi) means very special to AV actors. Then you shouldn't think that you are outstanding or that you have got a true intercourse, but it makes you feel simply glad and honored to work with him. Ah, I got a thing to be afraid of at the interview by him.
■ Though he was calm?
M: He was calm. In the way, "You don't have to behave so nicely. The role is not yours but your seniors', right?" said he. Oh, it was different from what I had experienced, I thought with ease. Then he casually told me "Working with me, you must sometimes swallow tampons. Okay?" Occasionally, someone in the Mensetsu Gundan has to be in charge of swallowing it. The words with a smile in a casual manner frightened me.
■ I believe it was reasonable.
M: That was my 4th year in this business, and I already had kind of pride in my job. Saying frankly, I was probably sort of leading a cynic's life. Mr. Yoyogi named "Maguwai" to the intercourse which the two gaze and get each other. What's importance of "Maguwai?" We, AV actors, should just act sex before the cameras, shouldn't we? Getting each other is so important? I thought like these at the beginning of working with him.
However, it gradually changed my mind to find some miraculous sex ━━ what I hadn't experienced ━━ just before me at the scenes directed by Mr. Yoyogi. I guess I kind of saw what he said ━━ so-called Yoyogism ━━ when it was my 10th year in this business, the 6th year in Yoyogi-gumi.
■ In 2009. I don't mean to be rude, but I feel you were kind of late.
M: I might be late, but he is not always working with me. I join the Yoyogi-gumi about 6 - 10 times a year. My seniors like Ginji didn't taught me nothing, but verbal explaining never brings me to the right place.
For instance, you have a box which contains a cactus. You know what's in. I can't see what's inside and have no idea about the contents, but. Moreover, I have no idea about what cactus is. Then, I believe that I can't clearly see what it is in no matter how detailed you describe with words. We can get to the right place by nothing but seeing actually, experiencing actually. That's life. So it had to take 6 years.
■ I appreciate your rhetoric. I agree. We men will forever never get what the pains of childbirth are actually, no matter how hard women explain. How about Mr. Yoyogi as a director?
M: He has so seriously produced the AVs in the belief. "Yoyogi's works are full of energy, so I can't watch them when I am not psyched up" said some women who had watched Yoyogi's works. I have to admire such works which they can't straightly watch before getting high.
Way of life. It forms the works. Mr. Yoyogi makes it a work even if the AV actor doesn't rise up in it. Generally, it cannot go as an AV. It is just like a whodunit that doesn't tell us who it is at the ending. But his works include everything, success and failure, at the scenes. In other words, he thinks a great deal of the actors' humanity.
■ Truth in the fictional world...
M: Mr. Yoyogi has shot real things revealed in the extraordinary called "AV." Joining Yoyogi-gumi taught me how interesting the intercourse with disclosing true humanity was, how nice we could feel when we exposed libido each other. The partners, AV actresses, don't expose before I first expose, I am sure now. It means the target of my excitement has changed from something symbolic to the partners' humanity.